Re: Fall 2020 Sweat Thread
Posted: Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:28 pm
I made this one myself
for current and prospective graduate students in mathematics
https://mathematicsgre.com/
Same, Duke? I knew I didn't stand a chance
Yup! They rejected me last year too. Oh well, here's to hoping I get at least one acceptance.
Congratulation!utkarsh1729 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 2:38 pmNorthwestern ESAM sent out their wave of offers an hour ago...
What do you mean by "intangibles"?asterac wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:07 pmFor anyone else in this position, just figured I'd mention I haven't heard anything at all from Duke or Northwestern yet.
My suspicion is that it's one of two things:
- it's like people were saying, that there are some rejections that just haven't been sent yet
If it's the latter, I was sorta daydreaming earlier about the possibility that the first round is made of applications that are good by the numbers and that the next pile is those where maybe the bullet points like publications, GRE scores, etc., aren't amazing but aren't disqualifying, so some might get in on intangibles. (Read: I would imagine I'd fit in that pile.) That's how I might do things if I were a DGS, since there would be less competition for that second group of candidates. I guess I've heard things about committees making "Definitely," "Maybe," and "Definitely not," piles but not specifically in the context of different rounds of decisions.
- they do multiple rounds of evaluations like someone mentioned OSU does, though they may not even need to touch the second round
Idk, it's crazy time. GLHF everyone. Drink some nice tea.
I haven't seen any posts of Duke acceptances yet, so its possible that they have only sent out rejections so far.asterac wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:07 pmFor anyone else in this position, just figured I'd mention I haven't heard anything at all from Duke or Northwestern yet.
My suspicion is that it's one of two things:
- it's like people were saying, that there are some rejections that just haven't been sent yet
If it's the latter, I was sorta daydreaming earlier about the possibility that the first round is made of applications that are good by the numbers and that the next pile is those where maybe the bullet points like publications, GRE scores, etc., aren't amazing but aren't disqualifying, so some might get in on intangibles. (Read: I would imagine I'd fit in that pile.) That's how I might do things if I were a DGS, since there would be less competition for that second group of candidates. I guess I've heard things about committees making "Definitely," "Maybe," and "Definitely not," piles but not specifically in the context of different rounds of decisions.
- they do multiple rounds of evaluations like someone mentioned OSU does, though they may not even need to touch the second round
Idk, it's crazy time. GLHF everyone. Drink some nice tea.
What is an intangible reason someone would be admitted to a program? Their opinion of themself despite their scores and lack of research? Their astrology sign? It would seem unfair for someone to be admitted to a program for anything other than tangible reasons.asterac wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:07 pmFor anyone else in this position, just figured I'd mention I haven't heard anything at all from Duke or Northwestern yet.
My suspicion is that it's one of two things:
- it's like people were saying, that there are some rejections that just haven't been sent yet
If it's the latter, I was sorta daydreaming earlier about the possibility that the first round is made of applications that are good by the numbers and that the next pile is those where maybe the bullet points like publications, GRE scores, etc., aren't amazing but aren't disqualifying, so some might get in on intangibles. (Read: I would imagine I'd fit in that pile.) That's how I might do things if I were a DGS, since there would be less competition for that second group of candidates. I guess I've heard things about committees making "Definitely," "Maybe," and "Definitely not," piles but not specifically in the context of different rounds of decisions.
- they do multiple rounds of evaluations like someone mentioned OSU does, though they may not even need to touch the second round
Idk, it's crazy time. GLHF everyone. Drink some nice tea.
ponchan wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:50 pmWhat is an intangible reason someone would be admitted to a program? Their opinion of themself despite their scores and lack of research? Their astrology sign? It would seem unfair for someone to be admitted to a program for anything other than tangible reasons.asterac wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:07 pmFor anyone else in this position, just figured I'd mention I haven't heard anything at all from Duke or Northwestern yet.
My suspicion is that it's one of two things:
- it's like people were saying, that there are some rejections that just haven't been sent yet
If it's the latter, I was sorta daydreaming earlier about the possibility that the first round is made of applications that are good by the numbers and that the next pile is those where maybe the bullet points like publications, GRE scores, etc., aren't amazing but aren't disqualifying, so some might get in on intangibles. (Read: I would imagine I'd fit in that pile.) That's how I might do things if I were a DGS, since there would be less competition for that second group of candidates. I guess I've heard things about committees making "Definitely," "Maybe," and "Definitely not," piles but not specifically in the context of different rounds of decisions.
- they do multiple rounds of evaluations like someone mentioned OSU does, though they may not even need to touch the second round
Idk, it's crazy time. GLHF everyone. Drink some nice tea.
I guess it depends which schools you applied to, but everything seems on track for me (with the exception of Yale, which usually releases results by Jan 20-ish). I fully expect these next two weeks to be chaotic, though. Tons of schools usually send out acceptances in the early weeks of February.
CoronalRain wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:28 pmI guess it depends which schools you applied to, but everything seems on track for me (with the exception of Yale, which usually releases results by Jan 20-ish). I fully expect these next two weeks to be chaotic, though. Tons of schools usually send out acceptances in the early weeks of February.
To some extent I’m probably projecting my anxiety about the delay from Yale and UCSD onto other programs. But looking at gradcafe, the only real movement this week has been UChicago and Duke clearing the pile with rejections (condolences by the way to everyone reading this who got rejected— keep your head up!!), and a handful of applied programs coming through. It’s true that the real crunch time is the next two weeks, but *this* quiet the last week of January? I’d say that’s unusual.
I'M READY. I'M READY. I'M READY. I'M READY.CoronalRain wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:28 pmI fully expect these next two weeks to be chaotic, though. Tons of schools usually send out acceptances in the early weeks of February.
I suppose UCLA is going to release more results tomorrow...PhilippMainlander wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 2:18 pmI'M READY. I'M READY. I'M READY. I'M READY.CoronalRain wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:28 pmI fully expect these next two weeks to be chaotic, though. Tons of schools usually send out acceptances in the early weeks of February.
Yale's silence is confusing, but I wouldn't worry too much about UCSD. Last year they released acceptances around Jan 30, but the year before it took them until mid-late February. They're a bigger program, so maybe their admissions cycle is more variable.mani_fold wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 1:57 pmTo some extent I’m probably projecting my anxiety about the delay from Yale and UCSD onto other programs. But looking at gradcafe, the only real movement this week has been UChicago and Duke clearing the pile with rejections (condolences by the way to everyone reading this who got rejected— keep your head up!!), and a handful of applied programs coming through. It’s true that the real crunch time is the next two weeks, but *this* quiet the last week of January? I’d say that’s unusual.
Stony Brook usually releases its results in mid-February (at least based on gradcafe posts...). I think we should expect to hear from some schools tomorrow (or even today, the day's not over yet) but the majority of the results should be released in the next two weeks. I know it's hard (I'm in the same situation) but we should be patient.
To add, I know UT Austin is still early in their admissions process. I don't think UW releases decisions (for pure math) until later, in March. I expect to hear back from most institutions in/around mid-February.
I do know that OSU (12/31) and Texas A&M (1/24) have done their first round of offers. The others are still up in the air as far as I know.
What all have you heard from UT?? Spill the beans!
From the UT Austin website:
February – mid-March – Graduate Adviser sends offers to candidates. If you do not receive an offer during this time, it does not mean you application is not going to be considered. We maintain a waitlist and we continue to make offers until the April 15 deadline. In general, the majority of our offers are extended during the time period of mid-February through mid-March.
My advisor has been in contact with someone on the admissions committee there. All I know is that individual "says things are pretty early there" and that they have reviewed "all files which indicated analysis as their main field of interest". From what I gather, strong candidates may hear back as soon as early Feb.
I didn't know US schools did that. Do they really sort by indicated interest? For example, if I indicated my interest was in Discrete Mathematics then my admission time will be completely different from another applicant.Integreat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:53 pmMy advisor has been in contact with someone on the admissions committee there. All I know is that individual "says things are pretty early there" and that they have reviewed "all files which indicated analysis as their main field of interest". From what I gather, strong candidates may hear back as soon as early Feb.
Independently, I haven't been keeping up with Berkeley but I think they had some kind of power outage, which may have delayed the process a bit. At least, that's coming from people who applied for Chem Ph.Ds, so take that with a grain of salt!
I imagine the decision dates are still the same. It's just that they had an analyst read over all the analysis apps to get feedback.PhilippMainlander wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:17 pmI didn't know US schools did that. Do they really sort by indicated interest? For example, if I indicated my interest was in Discrete Mathematics then my admission time will be completely different from another applicant.Integreat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:53 pmMy advisor has been in contact with someone on the admissions committee there. All I know is that individual "says things are pretty early there" and that they have reviewed "all files which indicated analysis as their main field of interest". From what I gather, strong candidates may hear back as soon as early Feb.
Independently, I haven't been keeping up with Berkeley but I think they had some kind of power outage, which may have delayed the process a bit. At least, that's coming from people who applied for Chem Ph.Ds, so take that with a grain of salt!
I am an master student in one of the schools I listed and I hope to get an offer there. However my school don’t have many masters and the only one I know was much better than me but got no offer. (Maybe because he did not take the written comprehensive exams, or some schools think he is overqualified?) That’s why I am so upset. Moreover, I know I have a very solid math background but it seems that my profile is not that competitive. While, as the deadlines all passed and my applications submitted, I can only wait until the I hear the last news.lucasmiranda wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:17 pmStony Brook usually releases its results in mid-February (at least based on gradcafe posts...). I think we should expect to hear from some schools tomorrow (or even today, the day's not over yet) but the majority of the results should be released in the next two weeks. I know it's hard (I'm in the same situation) but we should be patient.
As long as I know, my university (an institution in the United States) does sort applicants by their indicated interests. Under the admission committee, there are groups of faculties in different fields of math, like a group in analysis, a group in algebra, etc. For example, for the applicants whose interest is geometry, their applications will be sent to a group of faculties in the field of geometry to review. Then the group in geometry will send their top choices to the admission committee for a final review. If the admission committee think these applications are not bad, final decisions are made (Usually committee wouldn't reject applicants selected by groups).PhilippMainlander wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 8:17 pmI didn't know US schools did that. Do they really sort by indicated interest? For example, if I indicated my interest was in Discrete Mathematics then my admission time will be completely different from another applicant.Integreat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 7:53 pmMy advisor has been in contact with someone on the admissions committee there. All I know is that individual "says things are pretty early there" and that they have reviewed "all files which indicated analysis as their main field of interest". From what I gather, strong candidates may hear back as soon as early Feb.
Independently, I haven't been keeping up with Berkeley but I think they had some kind of power outage, which may have delayed the process a bit. At least, that's coming from people who applied for Chem Ph.Ds, so take that with a grain of salt!
Looks like Duke acceptances went out today. Someone got in with a 42% mGRE, so I'm pretty salty right now.AugmentedSeventh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:19 pmI haven't seen any posts of Duke acceptances yet, so its possible that they have only sent out rejections so far.
Shows how people take the MGRE too seriously here.CoronalRain wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:40 pmLooks like Duke acceptances went out today. Someone got in with a 42% mGRE, so I'm pretty salty right now.AugmentedSeventh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:19 pmI haven't seen any posts of Duke acceptances yet, so its possible that they have only sent out rejections so far.
There are a lot of other important components to an application other than the mGRE. I'm sure everyone who got into Duke is uniquely qualified in their own way. Unfortunately, unless you have an absolutely stellar application, admission into any top ranked program has somewhat of a "luck" component, since there are many more qualified applicants than positions available. Try not to let it bother you too muchCoronalRain wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:40 pmLooks like Duke acceptances went out today. Someone got in with a 42% mGRE, so I'm pretty salty right now.AugmentedSeventh wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2020 8:19 pmI haven't seen any posts of Duke acceptances yet, so its possible that they have only sent out rejections so far.
Yeah, you're probably right, and I'm sure there were a lot more important factors taken into account. I'm just openly wallowing in my own misery so my soul doesn't get compressed into a black hole.PhilippMainlander wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:45 pmShows how people take the MGRE too seriously here.
DWCoronalRain wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:58 pmYeah, you're probably right, and I'm sure there were a lot more important factors taken into account. I'm just openly wallowing in my own misery so my soul doesn't get compressed into a black hole.PhilippMainlander wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:45 pmShows how people take the MGRE too seriously here.