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Come on do you honestly expect to get in to UCLA with your stats? I know that "[being] female (under-represented minority) definitely helps [your] application" but this is very above your pay grade don't you think?confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:13 pmwhat numbers? mine still says submitted aka pending
Even if you do get in do you honestly think you can survive? The profile of people that have gotten in is like a tier above yours. Be realistic dude
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That's just rude and sexist. You can't deny my right to at least give it a try can you?applepi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:18 pmCome on do you honestly expect to get in to UCLA with your stats? I know that "[being] female (under-represented minority) definitely helps [your] application" but this is very above your pay grade don't you think?confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:13 pmwhat numbers? mine still says submitted aka pending
Even if you do get in do you honestly think you can survive? The profile of people that have gotten in is like a tier above yours. Be realistic dude
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Look, take it anyway you want but the undeniable truth is that your kind have a way easier time with graduate admissions or even future academic employment opportunities. But at the end of the day, you still need to know the material and able to produce research results, and based on your profile, you are nowhere close to being sufficiently prepared for any tier 1 (or even arguable tier 2) programs. Having merely 2 semesters of algebra and analysis in simply insufficient or modest at best.confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:21 pmThat's just rude and sexist. You can't deny my right to at least give it a try can you?applepi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:18 pmCome on do you honestly expect to get in to UCLA with your stats? I know that "[being] female (under-represented minority) definitely helps [your] application" but this is very above your pay grade don't you think?confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:13 pm
what numbers? mine still says submitted aka pending
Even if you do get in do you honestly think you can survive? The profile of people that have gotten in is like a tier above yours. Be realistic dude
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@confused.graduate You have every right to apply to UCLA and "stats" aren't necessarily indicative of your actual mathematical ability. General GRE is obviously irrelevant and there are many factors that can influence your GPA. Assholes like applepi are part of the reason so many women drop out of math PhDs. I wish you the best and I hope you get in somewhere good. Try to prove them wrong.confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:21 pmThat's just rude and sexist. You can't deny my right to at least give it a try can you?applepi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:18 pmCome on do you honestly expect to get in to UCLA with your stats? I know that "[being] female (under-represented minority) definitely helps [your] application" but this is very above your pay grade don't you think?confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:13 pm
what numbers? mine still says submitted aka pending
Even if you do get in do you honestly think you can survive? The profile of people that have gotten in is like a tier above yours. Be realistic dude
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Thanks!luigi2yoshi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 12:54 pmnot yetphdapplicant100 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 2:49 amHas anyone heard back from Rensselaer yet? I have heard of them sending in admits really early in the past few years.
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Oh yeah? I won't apologize for speaking the obvious truth or failing to sugarcoat things for you.Catalan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:35 pm@confused.graduate You have every right to apply to UCLA and "stats" aren't necessarily indicative of your actual mathematical ability. General GRE is obviously irrelevant and there are many factors that can influence your GPA. Assholes like applepi are part of the reason so many women drop out of math PhDs. I wish you the best and I hope you get in somewhere good. Try to prove them wrong.confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:21 pmThat's just rude and sexist. You can't deny my right to at least give it a try can you?applepi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:18 pm
Come on do you honestly expect to get in to UCLA with your stats? I know that "[being] female (under-represented minority) definitely helps [your] application" but this is very above your pay grade don't you think?
Even if you do get in do you honestly think you can survive? The profile of people that have gotten in is like a tier above yours. Be realistic dude
Look at the UCLA basic examination syllabus, I doubt confused.graduate can even answer a single question right, or can even recognize any of the concepts. But I am more than willing to bet that most people that got admitted to UCLA can pass the basic exam if not the qualifying exam with ease. Hell, even someone like me from a lesser institution (compared to Ivies) in Canada can answer most questions if not pass the basic exam without much difficulty.
https://www.math.ucla.edu/grad/handbook/quals
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No one is expected to be able to pass their quals before they start grad school, thats part of why you take classes.applepi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:41 pmOh yeah? I won't apologize for speaking the obvious truth or failing to sugarcoat things for you.Catalan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:35 pm@confused.graduate You have every right to apply to UCLA and "stats" aren't necessarily indicative of your actual mathematical ability. General GRE is obviously irrelevant and there are many factors that can influence your GPA. Assholes like applepi are part of the reason so many women drop out of math PhDs. I wish you the best and I hope you get in somewhere good. Try to prove them wrong.confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:21 pm
That's just rude and sexist. You can't deny my right to at least give it a try can you?
Look at the UCLA basic examination syllabus, I doubt confused.graduate can even answer a single question right, or can even recognize any of the concepts. But I am more than willing to bet that most people that got admitted to UCLA can pass the basic exam if not the qualifying exam with ease. Hell, even someone like me from a lesser institution (compared to Ivies) in Canada can answer most questions if not pass the basic exam without much difficulty.
https://www.math.ucla.edu/grad/handbook/quals
Does being a rude to women online make you feel good? I don't understand what you gain by discouraging people from applying to places and adding to people's impostor syndrome. You don't know her story, you don't know what opportunities she did or didn't have. Not everyone starts from the same place and you can't judge someone's mathematical ability based on an online post.
I understand you're probably bitter thinking that your spot at schools might be taken by a woman when you're equally qualified, but would you really rather be in grad school with only men? Do you think that would be a good environment? If they didn't accept extra women, it would create an environment so unwelcoming to women that practically NO woman no matter how qualified would want to go to graduate school for math. This would waste nearly half the mathematical potential out there. You have to understand that accepting women who appear to have "worse stats" is the only way to make an environment where qualified women could go to graduate school in a reasonable environment.
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I am not being rude I am simply being blunt and truthful.Catalan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:53 pmNo one is expected to be able to pass their quals before they start grad school, thats part of why you take classes.applepi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:41 pmOh yeah? I won't apologize for speaking the obvious truth or failing to sugarcoat things for you.Catalan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:35 pm
@confused.graduate You have every right to apply to UCLA and "stats" aren't necessarily indicative of your actual mathematical ability. General GRE is obviously irrelevant and there are many factors that can influence your GPA. Assholes like applepi are part of the reason so many women drop out of math PhDs. I wish you the best and I hope you get in somewhere good. Try to prove them wrong.
Look at the UCLA basic examination syllabus, I doubt confused.graduate can even answer a single question right, or can even recognize any of the concepts. But I am more than willing to bet that most people that got admitted to UCLA can pass the basic exam if not the qualifying exam with ease. Hell, even someone like me from a lesser institution (compared to Ivies) in Canada can answer most questions if not pass the basic exam without much difficulty.
https://www.math.ucla.edu/grad/handbook/quals
Does being a rude to women online make you feel good? I don't understand what you gain by discouraging people from applying to places and adding to people's impostor syndrome. You don't know her story, you don't know what opportunities she did or didn't have. Not everyone starts from the same place and you can't judge someone's mathematical ability based on an online post.
I understand you're probably bitter thinking that your spot at schools might be taken by a woman when you're equally qualified, but would you really rather be in grad school with only men? Do you think that would be a good environment? If they didn't accept extra women, it would create an environment so unwelcoming to women that practically NO woman no matter how qualified would want to go to graduate school for math. This would waste nearly half the mathematical potential out there. You have to understand that accepting women who appear to have "worse stats" is the only way to make an environment where qualified women could go to graduate school in a reasonable environment.
I know a good environment is where everyone got where they deserve based on their merits not looks/race/gender/other factors. If the admission standard is different for different groups of people it creates bitterness and stereotyping. Have you ever questioned why guys thinks that women are just not as good scientists/mathematicians as men? Why do people automatically assume that international graduate students are smarter? It's because of the double standard, if everyone is treated equally without consideration of other factors this would never have occured.
And on the "other half of the mathematical potential out there." Okay I acknowledge the fact that the world is composed of roughly 50-50 men and women. But please don't lie right to my face say that out of the entire 100% of population who is interested to become mathematicians or scientists, 50% are women. That's just preposterous. Based on the same logic doesn't that means 50% of nursing students should be male?
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You’re a ****. **** you.applepi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:18 pmCome on do you honestly expect to get in to UCLA with your stats? I know that "[being] female (under-represented minority) definitely helps [your] application" but this is very above your pay grade don't you think?confused.graduate wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:13 pmwhat numbers? mine still says submitted aka pending
Even if you do get in do you honestly think you can survive? The profile of people that have gotten in is like a tier above yours. Be realistic dude
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I said "mathematical potential" which refers to people who under the right circumstances could become productive mathematicians. Yes, I believe that if all environmental factors were equal (including subliminal messaging, bias in early schooling) then there would be as many good female mathematicians as male.applepi wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:00 amI am not being rude I am simply being blunt and truthful.Catalan wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:53 pmNo one is expected to be able to pass their quals before they start grad school, thats part of why you take classes.applepi wrote: ↑Tue Jan 19, 2021 11:41 pm
Oh yeah? I won't apologize for speaking the obvious truth or failing to sugarcoat things for you.
Look at the UCLA basic examination syllabus, I doubt confused.graduate can even answer a single question right, or can even recognize any of the concepts. But I am more than willing to bet that most people that got admitted to UCLA can pass the basic exam if not the qualifying exam with ease. Hell, even someone like me from a lesser institution (compared to Ivies) in Canada can answer most questions if not pass the basic exam without much difficulty.
https://www.math.ucla.edu/grad/handbook/quals
Does being a rude to women online make you feel good? I don't understand what you gain by discouraging people from applying to places and adding to people's impostor syndrome. You don't know her story, you don't know what opportunities she did or didn't have. Not everyone starts from the same place and you can't judge someone's mathematical ability based on an online post.
I understand you're probably bitter thinking that your spot at schools might be taken by a woman when you're equally qualified, but would you really rather be in grad school with only men? Do you think that would be a good environment? If they didn't accept extra women, it would create an environment so unwelcoming to women that practically NO woman no matter how qualified would want to go to graduate school for math. This would waste nearly half the mathematical potential out there. You have to understand that accepting women who appear to have "worse stats" is the only way to make an environment where qualified women could go to graduate school in a reasonable environment.
I know a good environment is where everyone got where they deserve based on their merits not looks/race/gender/other factors. If the admission standard is different for different groups of people it creates bitterness and stereotyping. Have you ever questioned why guys thinks that women are just not as good scientists/mathematicians as men? Why do people automatically assume that international graduate students are smarter? It's because of the double standard, if everyone is treated equally without consideration of other factors this would never have occured.
And on the "other half of the mathematical potential out there." Okay I acknowledge the fact that the world is composed of roughly 50-50 men and women. But please don't lie right to my face say that out of the entire 100% of population who is interested to become mathematicians or scientists, 50% are women. That's just preposterous. Based on the same logic doesn't that means 50% of nursing students should be male?
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Please stop arguing - this controversy has been extensively debated among academics, that's why some departments discriminate against non-URM and some don't. You guys are welcome to hold your own opinions but this isn't street fighters forum edition, please just stop and keep the forum clean.
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If applepi holds such regressive opinions regarding women and their mathematical skills, it is really unfair to label it just as another "argument". A lot of us plan to join academia, and it is scary that people like him could end up as faculty in a decision-making position. He has made multiple incendiary comments about the same subject so the only person who needs to stop is him.pkzrd wrote: ↑Wed Jan 20, 2021 12:11 amPlease stop arguing - this controversy has been extensively debated among academics, that's why some departments discriminate against non-URM and some don't. You guys are welcome to hold your own opinions but this isn't street fighters forum edition, please just stop and keep the forum clean.
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Has anyone heard back from Rutgers or UIUC? Gradcafe shows one acceptance at both of them, but that could be dubious.
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Did anyone get a rejection from U Chicago so far?
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Did anyone get in UIUC from here? There's just one post on Gradcafe
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I don't know how helpful or relevant this is, but everyone who got into MIT, UCLA, and UIUC is domestic. So, internationals, hang in there.
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I had a missed transcript in my Rutgers application, and was only informed of this on Jan 20th, so I assume they haven't looked through everything.
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Almost certainly. My (more qualified) peers haven't heard back from them yet either, so I'm assuming they're just starting to look through.CategorifiedCat wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 1:12 pmI had a missed transcript in my Rutgers application, and was only informed of this on Jan 20th, so I assume they haven't looked through everything.
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Have any of you heard back from northeastern yet! Their deadline was sometime in December, not a peep since then.
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It seems that Penn State has released decisions, anyone heard back from this forum?
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I heard back from Penn State. I got a direct email from the two directors of the grad program. If anyone has any questions feel free to dm.crystal_math wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:09 pmIt seems that Penn State has released decisions, anyone heard back from this forum?
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I heard back from Penn State. I got an email from the two directors of the graduate program and info about the program.crystal_math wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:09 pmIt seems that Penn State has released decisions, anyone heard back from this forum?
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guess who only had two of the recommenders submit to Penn State
it's fixed now but hopefully they consider my app... one of my top two schools
it's fixed now but hopefully they consider my app... one of my top two schools
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Do you know if they released any rejections? I haven't heard anything yet, a little nervouscrystal_math wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:09 pmIt seems that Penn State has released decisions, anyone heard back from this forum?
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My guess from past cycles is that the offers are made in a staggered fashion so hard to say. There's also the possibility of a second round.jjmb11 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:59 pmDo you know if they released any rejections? I haven't heard anything yet, a little nervouscrystal_math wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 7:09 pmIt seems that Penn State has released decisions, anyone heard back from this forum?
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It's weird that everyone posting on gradcafe for Penn is American. Does that mean they are evaluating Internationals separately? I am not aware of schools adopting such practices
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Well, MIT, UCLA, and a couple of universities who have made offers so far have done it to only domestic applicants. So, yes, there's a good chance they will do Internationals later.crystal_math wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:46 pmIt's weird that everyone posting on gradcafe for Penn is American. Does that they doing Internationals separately? I am not aware of schools adopting such practices
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there are a couple ucla and mit acceptances from international students at gradcafe and this forumyaskhn3 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:00 amWell, MIT, UCLA, and a couple of universities who have made offers so far have done it to only domestic applicants. So, yes, there's a good chance they will do Internationals later.crystal_math wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:46 pmIt's weird that everyone posting on gradcafe for Penn is American. Does that they doing Internationals separately? I am not aware of schools adopting such practices
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Well in all fairness those people are infact Internationals, but they did their undergrad in the US. I'd be surprised if all of these schools didn't accept a single student outside of the US. Maybe I'm just giving myself some hope this way. Let's seeconfused.graduate wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:38 amthere are a couple ucla and mit acceptances from international students at gradcafe and this forumyaskhn3 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:00 amWell, MIT, UCLA, and a couple of universities who have made offers so far have done it to only domestic applicants. So, yes, there's a good chance they will do Internationals later.crystal_math wrote: ↑Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:46 pmIt's weird that everyone posting on gradcafe for Penn is American. Does that they doing Internationals separately? I am not aware of schools adopting such practices
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I'm a PhD student at UIUC and my advisor is still reviewing application profiles. It's possible (though not likely) that some offers have been sent out but I don't think that's considered the first round of offers. No need to worry for now!
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That's such a relief. Thank you.
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Someone posted on GradCafe about an unofficial Northwestern rejection -- anyone else know anything about that?
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Did anyone apply to the Paris Graduate School of Mathematical Sciences Master's Fellowship (commonly known as PGSM Master's Fellowship, offered by Fondation Sciences Mathématiques de Paris) recently? If there is anyone who has applied please let me know.
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My application status for Bonn's master's in mathematics program says that decision made. What does this mean? Am I admitted or rejected?
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Someone posted on GradCafe about a UW acceptance -- did anyone else hear anything back?
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Have anyone or (someone you know) gotten waitlisted by UChicago and accepted later? Their tone sounded like "there's hope for you yet, but just a little and don't count on it"
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Nothing here. I'd be hesitant to trust it or consider it as part of a first wave of offers, though. It's been a topic of discussion on that board for a couple days so there's a chance it's just someone posting to be a jerk.
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Someone posted bout UC Davis too recently. Did anyone hear anything from this place?
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No, but I feel like maybe it's too early? Seems like it was unofficialAnatolyBabakov wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:40 amSomeone posted bout UC Davis too recently. Did anyone hear anything from this place?
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Might not be actually. Last year all the offers went through by the end of January ( according to gradcafe) hence the cold sweat.blue_math wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:50 amNo, but I feel like maybe it's too early? Seems like it was unofficialAnatolyBabakov wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:40 amSomeone posted bout UC Davis too recently. Did anyone hear anything from this place?
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One more person has posted and I am also panicking here a little bit. If there are no further rounds of offers, then this might be the end of the lane with this university.AnatolyBabakov wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:06 amMight not be actually. Last year all the offers went through by the end of January ( according to gradcafe) hence the cold sweat.blue_math wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:50 amNo, but I feel like maybe it's too early? Seems like it was unofficialAnatolyBabakov wrote: ↑Tue Jan 26, 2021 1:40 amSomeone posted bout UC Davis too recently. Did anyone hear anything from this place?