Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

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Boplicity
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Boplicity » Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:15 pm

MathQueen wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:24 pm
inaicecream wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:20 pm
Scathrules wrote:
Thu Feb 16, 2023 3:42 pm
Anybody heard from BU, UCI, or UVA?
I just got an email from them asking me to apply to their Bridge to Doctoral Program and they allege it has no bearing on the status of our application.
"we expect to be able to post first round decisions shortly"...how shortly?! A few days? A few weeks? Just let me know already :cry:
They meant VERY shortly. I got an unofficial acceptance 2.5 hours after that email

Helpmepls
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Helpmepls » Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:12 pm

To those who were emailed by UIC in the past, I would check your email for updates.

hilberthotel
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by hilberthotel » Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:02 am

Helpmepls wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:12 pm
To those who were emailed by UIC in the past, I would check your email for updates.
I got nothing. What about you?

corkquark
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by corkquark » Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:13 am

Helpmepls wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:12 pm
To those who were emailed by UIC in the past, I would check your email for updates.
I got an offer for the MS program. How about u?

Helpmepls
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Helpmepls » Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:35 am

hilberthotel wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:02 am
Helpmepls wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:12 pm
To those who were emailed by UIC in the past, I would check your email for updates.
I got nothing. What about you?
corkquark wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:13 am
Helpmepls wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:12 pm
To those who were emailed by UIC in the past, I would check your email for updates.
I got an offer for the MS program. How about u?
Thankfully, I got an offer for the Ph.D. program; I think they're still making offers so don't let your hopes drop!

Helpmepls
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Helpmepls » Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:48 am

hilberthotel wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:02 am
Helpmepls wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:12 pm
To those who were emailed by UIC in the past, I would check your email for updates.
I got nothing. What about you?
Also just a thought, but the fact that you've received nothing could be good news. I emailed them a while ago and they wouldn't give me any updates. So maybe this means that some consensus has to be made to make an offer? Tbh idk how admissions processes really work, but this is just my impression. Best of luck!

hilberthotel
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by hilberthotel » Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:34 am

Helpmepls wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:35 am
hilberthotel wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:02 am
Helpmepls wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:12 pm
To those who were emailed by UIC in the past, I would check your email for updates.
I got nothing. What about you?
corkquark wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:13 am
Helpmepls wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 10:12 pm
To those who were emailed by UIC in the past, I would check your email for updates.
I got an offer for the MS program. How about u?
Thankfully, I got an offer for the Ph.D. program; I think they're still making offers so don't let your hopes drop!
Congrats!
Were you the one who added your result to Gradcafe??

Biset
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Biset » Sat Feb 18, 2023 7:50 am

Boplicity wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 9:15 pm
MathQueen wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:24 pm
inaicecream wrote:
Fri Feb 17, 2023 6:20 pm


I just got an email from them asking me to apply to their Bridge to Doctoral Program and they allege it has no bearing on the status of our application.
"we expect to be able to post first round decisions shortly"...how shortly?! A few days? A few weeks? Just let me know already :cry:
They meant VERY shortly. I got an unofficial acceptance 2.5 hours after that email
Congrats! I get no news from UVA and do you guys know that the first round offers are sent out or some will be sent out later?

I contacted with UMN and they told me that they are hoping to give all decisions until the end of the February.(waitlisted,rejections etc..)

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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by rrust19 » Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:05 pm

I’m still waiting to hear back from 11/15 of my schools - Cornell, BU, BC, Northeastern, Tufts, Brandeis, Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse, Albany, and Lehigh. I am starting to get very stressed and upset cause this radio silence is KILLING me. I have already been accepted into 2 schools so I have options but it would be nice to hear from these other places so I could plan visits to any if possible.

I want to email them and ask for updates but i know it’s too early and don’t want to hurt my chances. Any words of encouragement or advice to just help me not explode from stress and frustration? :(

Helpmepls
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Helpmepls » Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:32 pm

hilberthotel wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:34 am
Helpmepls wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:35 am
hilberthotel wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:02 am


I got nothing. What about you?
corkquark wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:13 am


I got an offer for the MS program. How about u?
Thankfully, I got an offer for the Ph.D. program; I think they're still making offers so don't let your hopes drop!
Congrats!
Were you the one who added your result to Gradcafe??
Thanks and nah I haven't written anything on grad cafe.

Helpmepls
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Helpmepls » Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:34 pm

rrust19 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:05 pm
I’m still waiting to hear back from 11/15 of my schools - Cornell, BU, BC, Northeastern, Tufts, Brandeis, Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse, Albany, and Lehigh. I am starting to get very stressed and upset cause this radio silence is KILLING me. I have already been accepted into 2 schools so I have options but it would be nice to hear from these other places so I could plan visits to any if possible.

I want to email them and ask for updates but i know it’s too early and don’t want to hurt my chances. Any words of encouragement or advice to just help me not explode from stress and frustration? :(
I could be wrong, but my personal feeling is emailing with an inquiry just asking for an update won't hurt your application as long as you only do it once. I feel like the worst-case scenario is that they ignore your email.

Scathrules
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Scathrules » Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:44 pm

Helpmepls wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 1:34 pm
rrust19 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 12:05 pm
I’m still waiting to hear back from 11/15 of my schools - Cornell, BU, BC, Northeastern, Tufts, Brandeis, Rutgers, Maryland, Syracuse, Albany, and Lehigh. I am starting to get very stressed and upset cause this radio silence is KILLING me. I have already been accepted into 2 schools so I have options but it would be nice to hear from these other places so I could plan visits to any if possible.

I want to email them and ask for updates but i know it’s too early and don’t want to hurt my chances. Any words of encouragement or advice to just help me not explode from stress and frustration? :(
I could be wrong, but my personal feeling is emailing with an inquiry just asking for an update won't hurt your application as long as you only do it once. I feel like the worst-case scenario is that they ignore your email.
I think it might be better to wait until March/late February to do that. This year is definitely slow but traditionally, March is when second offers are made while February is for first wave

MGREfcapgsim
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by MGREfcapgsim » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:26 am

Anyone has interview scheduled or finished with Umich?

Kaleiss
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Kaleiss » Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:16 pm

MGREfcapgsim wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:26 am
Anyone has interview scheduled or finished with Umich?
Conducted interview last Friday and admitted 10 minutes ago.

MGREfcapgsim
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by MGREfcapgsim » Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:38 pm

Kaleiss wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:16 pm
MGREfcapgsim wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:26 am
Anyone has interview scheduled or finished with Umich?
Conducted interview last Friday and admitted 10 minutes ago.
Is it an official admission or an unofficial admission?

hockeylover11
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by hockeylover11 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:48 pm

Kaleiss wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:16 pm
MGREfcapgsim wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:26 am
Anyone has interview scheduled or finished with Umich?
Conducted interview last Friday and admitted 10 minutes ago.
For pure or applied?

hushus42
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by hushus42 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:23 pm

Rejection from UW-Madison, Pure, directly informed through email from DGA.

Scathrules
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Scathrules » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:25 pm

Has anyone been rejected from Purdue? I still haven't received anything from them

Kaleiss
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Kaleiss » Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:34 pm

MGREfcapgsim wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 1:38 pm
Kaleiss wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 12:16 pm
MGREfcapgsim wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:26 am
Anyone has interview scheduled or finished with Umich?
Conducted interview last Friday and admitted 10 minutes ago.
Is it an official admission or an unofficial admission?
Official offer from math grad office.

Waittohear
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Waittohear » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:19 pm

Are you guys comfortable discussing offer amounts on here for different places?

FieldsMedalist
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by FieldsMedalist » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:30 pm

Waittohear wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:19 pm
Are you guys comfortable discussing offer amounts on here for different places?
Maybe make a seperate topic about this. I'd be interested.

inaicecream
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by inaicecream » Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:39 pm

FieldsMedalist wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:30 pm
Waittohear wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:19 pm
Are you guys comfortable discussing offer amounts on here for different places?
Maybe make a seperate topic about this. I'd be interested.
I second this, I think it’ll be a helpful thing to discuss especially considering the state of this economy in The States specifically.

hushus42
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by hushus42 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:40 pm

Columbia rejection, pure, email to check portal

MathQueen
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by MathQueen » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:41 pm

Scathrules wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:25 pm
Has anyone been rejected from Purdue? I still haven't received anything from them
I haven't received anything either. I saw two people posted rejections from them on GradCafe on February 9th. But that's all I've seen.

hushus42
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by hushus42 » Mon Feb 20, 2023 6:59 pm

Scathrules wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:25 pm
Has anyone been rejected from Purdue? I still haven't received anything from them
I did on Feb 9

veenzaan
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by veenzaan » Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:18 pm

Anybody know what's going on with UIUC? Last year they sent out rejections by around 14th Feb too, this year they haven't yet. Any idea if they'll send out more offers?

Also yep, I also know a person (they're not on this forum) who got rejected from Purdue.

Euler101
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Euler101 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:14 am

Scathrules wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:25 pm
Has anyone been rejected from Purdue? I still haven't received anything from them
I know some people have received offers. They are having a campus visit in early March. If you haven't heard an acceptance or rejection, then you are probably on their waitlist.

veenzaan
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by veenzaan » Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:54 am

Rejected from Lancaster - mail says "I have been informed that the department is unable to provide an appropriate supervisor for your area of research".

There are at least 4 Professors in the area I mentioned I want to work in, including one Professor who replied to my mail saying that I should feel free to add his name as a potential supervisor. Could've saved some effort if he would've just told me not to apply.

I think they take somewhat technical interviews for everybody shortlisted so I was basically not considered at all.

Nice.

Biset
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Biset » Tue Feb 21, 2023 12:56 pm

Rejected from Minnesota. I guess it but it hurts :(

veenzaan
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by veenzaan » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:10 pm

I mailed the WashU Director of Graduate Studies to ask my status and he said

"Unfortunately, this year we have very few slots available for our PhD programs. We have sent out our first round of offers and you were not selected among those. We will let you know if anything changes on our end."

I guess it means a waitlist technically right?

But seems unlikely now :(

Scathrules
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Scathrules » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:20 pm

veenzaan wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:10 pm
I mailed the WashU Director of Graduate Studies to ask my status and he said

"Unfortunately, this year we have very few slots available for our PhD programs. We have sent out our first round of offers and you were not selected among those. We will let you know if anything changes on our end."

I guess it means a waitlist technically right?

But seems unlikely now :(
Possibly but a fair amount of programs waitlist every non-accepted applicant until like March :( I hope you get good news tho! :)

veenzaan
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by veenzaan » Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:31 pm

Scathrules wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:20 pm
veenzaan wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:10 pm
I mailed the WashU Director of Graduate Studies to ask my status and he said

"Unfortunately, this year we have very few slots available for our PhD programs. We have sent out our first round of offers and you were not selected among those. We will let you know if anything changes on our end."

I guess it means a waitlist technically right?

But seems unlikely now :(
Possibly but a fair amount of programs waitlist every non-accepted applicant until like March :( I hope you get good news tho! :)
Thanks. Not expecting much though. WashU was probably the most important place for me (UIUC and Purdue are overall better schools but by research fit WashU was by far the best) so this is very disappointing.

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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Boplicity » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:35 pm

Accepted to Penn State!!!

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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by auGausst0 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:45 pm

Boplicity wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:35 pm
Accepted to Penn State!!!
Sweet, how were you contacted?

Waittohear
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Waittohear » Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:45 pm

veenzaan wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:10 pm
I mailed the WashU Director of Graduate Studies to ask my status and he said

"Unfortunately, this year we have very few slots available for our PhD programs. We have sent out our first round of offers and you were not selected among those. We will let you know if anything changes on our end."

I guess it means a waitlist technically right?

But seems unlikely now :(
Seattle or Saint Louis?

Yuqiao
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Yuqiao » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:23 pm

Does anyone know if Columbia has sent acceptance? Thanks!

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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by spicyguava » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:24 pm

For anyone that applied to NC State and already knows they won't be going there I would really appreciate it if you would decline your offer/withdraw asap!

corkquark
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by corkquark » Tue Feb 21, 2023 3:26 pm

if u havent heard from BC i would assume rejection. got a response email abt my application

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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by inhyak » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:23 pm

auGausst0 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:45 pm
Boplicity wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:35 pm
Accepted to Penn State!!!
Sweet, how were you contacted?
Was also accepted - via email

start.over.104418
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by start.over.104418 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:24 pm

inhyak wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:23 pm
auGausst0 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:45 pm
Boplicity wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:35 pm
Accepted to Penn State!!!
Sweet, how were you contacted?
Was also accepted - via email
Congratulations, Is this for applied Mathematics?

Boplicity
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Boplicity » Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:26 pm

start.over.104418 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:24 pm
inhyak wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:23 pm
auGausst0 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:45 pm


Sweet, how were you contacted?
Was also accepted - via email
Congratulations, Is this for applied Mathematics?
For pure and I was also accepted via email

MathQueen
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by MathQueen » Tue Feb 21, 2023 5:49 pm

Scathrules wrote:
Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:25 pm
Has anyone been rejected from Purdue? I still haven't received anything from them
According to GradCafe, some more rejections went out today.

inhyak
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by inhyak » Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:02 pm

start.over.104418 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:24 pm
inhyak wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 4:23 pm
auGausst0 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:45 pm


Sweet, how were you contacted?
Was also accepted - via email
Congratulations, Is this for applied Mathematics?
Housed in the same department but yes I indicated applied track

veenzaan
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by veenzaan » Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:09 pm

Waittohear wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 2:45 pm
veenzaan wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 1:10 pm
I mailed the WashU Director of Graduate Studies to ask my status and he said

"Unfortunately, this year we have very few slots available for our PhD programs. We have sent out our first round of offers and you were not selected among those. We will let you know if anything changes on our end."

I guess it means a waitlist technically right?

But seems unlikely now :(
Seattle or Saint Louis?
Saint Louis.

Helpmepls
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Helpmepls » Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:30 pm

I got news from Michigan State for those who have applied there. As well I sent an email to Rutgers and got the response that my odds aren't very high, meaning a waitlist must have been made by now.

LetMeIn2401
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by LetMeIn2401 » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:04 pm

Anyone know whats up if we have not heard from UCLA?

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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by AugustGroves » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:19 pm

Helpmepls wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 6:30 pm
I got news from Michigan State for those who have applied there. As well I sent an email to Rutgers and got the response that my odds aren't very high, meaning a waitlist must have been made by now.
What do you know about Michigan State?

Boplicity
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Boplicity » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:22 pm

LetMeIn2401 wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:04 pm
Anyone know whats up if we have not heard from UCLA?
Assuming for my sanity that it's a rejection

Scholar
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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by Scholar » Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:54 pm

MIT rejection today. Did everyone else's rejection letter say "The decision in your case was reached only after extensive review in a highly competitive process" too?

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Re: Fall 2023 Sweat Thread

Post by asleep » Tue Feb 21, 2023 9:03 pm

Scholar wrote:
Tue Feb 21, 2023 8:54 pm
MIT rejection today. Did everyone else's rejection letter say "The decision in your case was reached only after extensive review in a highly competitive process" too?
yep, likewise



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